Curse

shoyon456 · Oct 11, 2009, 04:36 PM // 16:36

Technically, that little update they did to the EULA allows them to ban people who do this. However, the reason for resigning could be alterior, so who's to say its "unsportsmanship like conduct."

Personally, I don't think they should do anything about this, even if they could. Until they revamp the system, at least, this should be allowed to go on. If the new sealed deck system isn't as broken as HB, then they should crack down. Anet needs to realize that the reason these ways of not competing are partially a result of the fact that HB was designed poorly in the first place.

Yeah people will always try to get around, but if it was enjoyable and less polarizing, more people would be able to and want to play seriously.

Taddayo Kun · Oct 11, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20

If anet really cared, they would have simply taken hero battles out of the z combat rotation. then hero battles would have returned to being an empty outpost until sealed deck is introduced.

Secondly, banning of account that participated would be a very stupid move on their part. they have been lucky enough to have a dedicated fanbase who keep playing despite over 2 years or no new content (2 hours of mox quests don't really count...). They have even found new ways of getting money out of us through optional upgrades. Banning en masse for something they could have easily avoided would probably be a fatal blow for the morale of players. Particularly considering the similar situations with /roll and gvg match manipulation, for which they did practically nothing, not to mention the utter failure that is the dishonourable combattant system!

SilentDaze · Oct 11, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Esprit

Cheating? This is a joke.

Anet created Hero Battles.
Anet created Titles that take ridiculous amount of time to max.
Anet created Zaishen Combat rewards.

The fact that players have created what is known as Red Resign Day shows how flawed title implementation and Zaishen combat rewards are.

Anet, you created this "problem". Then you point the finger at the players for coming up with a way to achieve a title/rewards through a means that you made possible! Way to shift the blame. Look in the mirror first if you want the real culprit of this problem.

Best post in this thread, spot on.

kupp · Oct 11, 2009, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Get it through your thick heads that Anet will not ban anyone over this, because they'd have to ban thousands of players (including high end players), on a declining game, when the format beeing abused will be removed in like, 2-3 weeks maximum?

Unlike all the people who QQ the game will be dead if they nerf SF runs, should Anet take that route then that will trully be the last nail in the coffin when they're banning a nice chunck of their playerbase, practically all of them are NOT casual players.

If they'd want to stop it, they can just remove the HB quest all together and be done with it. There, no more abuse. Easier huh?

As for myself, I made 170 zkeys, ~140k or something in gold, got my r3 zaishen, bought myself a Draconig Aegis and still have plenty of cash to spare. I'm happy about it and I'll be waiting for the next RR day, I just might be able to max my sweet tooth title, who knows.

Here's a funny bit: I abhor farming and that's exactly why I take advantage of these RR days.

Osprey3 · Oct 11, 2009, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Anets theory maybe: Red Resign= New XTH , for the time being that is.

kupp · Oct 11, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17

If that's true, then I almost forgive them for leaving SF raping PvE for the last year.

Axel Zinfandel · Oct 11, 2009, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Include resigns into the Dishonorable Combatant System

*sits back and waits for the hate*

Esprit · Oct 11, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Include resigns into the Dishonorable Combatant System

*sits back and waits for the hate*

Participating players on RR Day usually just map to Hero Battles staging area if they are on the red team, because it is faster that way, rather than waiting to resign.

Akaraxle · Oct 11, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Moonlight Lust

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Originally Posted by turbo234

pfft. i like my 6000 balth and 1k every 2 wins

Haha I agree

It's dunces like these two that should be removed from Guild Wars entirely; perfect example of the kind of population ANet should never have catered to.

Karate Jesus · Oct 11, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Akaraxle

It's dunces like these two that should be removed from Guild Wars entirely; perfect example of the kind of population ANet should never have catered to.

You have to admit (if you've ever actually RR'd), that it can be a lot of fun.

I actually liked HB at one time and kind of wish they would keep it (but not at the cost of losing SD....which I hope to God is fun), but it really has degenerated. RR day is pretty much the only day that's steadily playable anymore.....other days, you're lucky if there are 10 people to play against.

Akaraxle · Oct 11, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

You have to admit (if you've ever actually RR'd), that it can be a lot of fun.

Would you mind explaining how "not playing" is fun?

P.S. An answer like "because HB is such a pile of shit that it's more fun to rip off your nails" doesn't count.

Karate Jesus · Oct 11, 2009, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Akaraxle

Would you mind explaining how "not playing" is fun?

I usually play. That's why it's fun

Discordway works in HB....right? Right? Ohnoes!

Jugalo Dano · Oct 11, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Osprey3

Anets theory maybe: Red Resign= New XTH , for the time being that is.

I'm pretty sure rr day is about 100 times worse on the economy then xth could ever be. The only people who make out seriously well with xth are people with multiple accounts; and that's their right. They paid for each of their accounts.

Not only are people getting hundreds of key for free, but it dumps gold out there too. It's also a weekly thing, not once a month.

own age myname · Oct 11, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Jugalo Dano

I'm pretty sure rr day is about 100 times worse on the economy then xth could ever be. The only people who make out seriously well with xth are people with multiple accounts; and that's their right. They paid for each of their accounts.

Not only are people getting hundreds of key for free, but it dumps gold out there too. It's also a weekly thing, not once a month.

Dont forget the part that HB is being removed soon, so there will be 1 more RR day (possible 2 more, if SD gets delayed).

Karate Jesus · Oct 12, 2009, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by own age myname

Dont forget the part that HB is being removed soon, so there will be 1 more RR day (possible 2 more, if SD gets delayed).

Regina has already said that Linsey is strapped for time and that SD has caught some snags. So.....yea, SD will probably be delayed......

FoxBat · Oct 12, 2009, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Discordway works in HB....right? Right? Ohnoes!

I especially love those guys who bring signet of spirits. But I only fight when blue.

RR uniquely works with HB and not other formats for several reasons;

- No-one plays HB seriously, so those few diehards are vastly outnumbered.
- 1v1, so it takes no coordination or setup to hop in and join. That's how most people play the game, so it's a perfect fit for PvE farmers.
- Most importantly, the system is rated. Red cape goes to the higher rated player in a match, so if they resign enough their likleyhood of hitting blue increases. The people who don't want to RR keep winning and eventually push into a higher rating bracket where they are more likely to fight each other, or they have to wait longer for matches; the people who want to RR but are high rated will eventually get knocked back down into the center by the system so they aren't too inconvenienced.
- Also there's no such thing as a "fast" HB match when you win by sitting on more shrines than the opponent, unless you're one of those suicide bot farmers. On TA/HA people will roll RtL because it win/loses very quickly, same with bloodspike or thumpers in gvg, which nets more total wins per time for your average player.

Gun Pierson · Oct 12, 2009, 01:31 AM // 01:31

I'm not taking any sides but I'm wondering:

What are the differences with wintersday when the community makes an agreement by splitting up Dwayna and Grenth districts? I see the same characteristics:
- reward
- efficiency
- not playing the game as intended

If you/we all do it on wintersday, why don't you do it here too? Jealousy, purist? The format will be gone anyway.

Also what did Anet expect? They've put the bowl of milk and the cat in the same room. Lets shoot the cat now?

Osprey3 · Oct 12, 2009, 01:36 AM // 01:36

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Originally Posted by Jugalo Dano

I'm pretty sure rr day is about 100 times worse on the economy then xth could ever be. The only people who make out seriously well with xth are people with multiple accounts; and that's their right. They paid for each of their accounts.

Not only are people getting hundreds of key for free, but it dumps gold out there too. It's also a weekly thing, not once a month.

maybe they are making up for the past few months.

Lihinel · Oct 12, 2009, 01:45 AM // 01:45

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

I'm not taking any sides but I'm wondering:

What are the differences with wintersday when the community makes an agreement by splitting up Dwayna and Grenth districts?

Well, officially, its cheating.

On that note: Ban those bloody bastards, ban them all!
Might lessen the stress on the server enourmously.

Karate Jesus · Oct 12, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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Originally Posted by Lihinel

Well, officially, its cheating.

On that note: Ban those bloody bastards, ban them all!
Might lessen the stress on the server enourmously.

Losing 6,000+ active players wouldn't just lessen the stress on the server(s)....it would probably "officially" kill the game...and piss off a lot of potential GW2 customers.